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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://saveblackromance.com/?p=415&#038;cpage=1#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep up the good work! Look forward to reading more from you in the future. I think it will be also nice if you add &quot;send to email&quot; tool so people can forward the articles to their friends easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the good work! Look forward to reading more from you in the future. I think it will be also nice if you add &#8220;send to email&#8221; tool so people can forward the articles to their friends easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernessa, author of 32 Candles</title>
		<link>http://saveblackromance.com/?p=415&#038;cpage=1#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernessa, author of 32 Candles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Monica, I would ADORE a black Time Traveler&#039;s Wife -- I&#039;m not going to write it, but I would eat that right up. But you&#039;ve touched on something I&#039;ve been longing for for awhile now. Something different, something that appeals, but also doesn&#039;t cater to the same ole same ole. I have this same problem with rap. It&#039;s like, &quot;Really? Another song about money and hos?&quot; I mean I love working out to rap music, but I&#039;ve been longing for somebody different (I mean other than Kanye) for awhile now. And when I say different, I mean appealing beats along with awesome content. If I hear one more intelligent-but-boring rap song, I just might scream. Why can&#039;t we have both?

As for the sexuality issue, it&#039;s funny, b/c I never really think about it for my stories. I love a hot sex scene, but I&#039;m more concerned with the plot and the writing, which is why a lot of erotica and street lit frustrates me. If the writing is good, I don&#039;t care how the sex is, I&#039;m there. 

As for IRL sexuality, I would suggest that black woman own their sexuality and be as happy with it as they can w/o worrying what others think of them. Though, I know that easier said than done. Nowanddays I look at pictures of myself from high school and college and think, &quot;Oh why, oh why didn&#039;t I wear more miniskirts?&quot; Next lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Monica, I would ADORE a black Time Traveler&#8217;s Wife &#8212; I&#8217;m not going to write it, but I would eat that right up. But you&#8217;ve touched on something I&#8217;ve been longing for for awhile now. Something different, something that appeals, but also doesn&#8217;t cater to the same ole same ole. I have this same problem with rap. It&#8217;s like, &#8220;Really? Another song about money and hos?&#8221; I mean I love working out to rap music, but I&#8217;ve been longing for somebody different (I mean other than Kanye) for awhile now. And when I say different, I mean appealing beats along with awesome content. If I hear one more intelligent-but-boring rap song, I just might scream. Why can&#8217;t we have both?</p>
<p>As for the sexuality issue, it&#8217;s funny, b/c I never really think about it for my stories. I love a hot sex scene, but I&#8217;m more concerned with the plot and the writing, which is why a lot of erotica and street lit frustrates me. If the writing is good, I don&#8217;t care how the sex is, I&#8217;m there. </p>
<p>As for IRL sexuality, I would suggest that black woman own their sexuality and be as happy with it as they can w/o worrying what others think of them. Though, I know that easier said than done. Nowanddays I look at pictures of myself from high school and college and think, &#8220;Oh why, oh why didn&#8217;t I wear more miniskirts?&#8221; Next lifetime.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Jackson</title>
		<link>http://saveblackromance.com/?p=415&#038;cpage=1#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blacks eat up hot IR, even when paranormal and in e-book format no less, I hear.  There is obviously a market out there for hot. Zane is as nasty as hell (and I love her) and she sold.  Why not a passel of copycats as usual?  That&#039;s what I&#039;m wondering.  They give us soap opera, but are light on the nasty.

I think a problem is that publishing over thinks what blacks are supposed to like and try hard to dish that up with the object of sales and getting paid. That&#039;s what keeps their paychecks coming, after all.

I think a breakout black author would be published by a mainstream publisher with a lot of hype.  I see her as writing mainstream romance--don&#039;t know if traditional romance readers can go with black characters for their usual romance fix--especially a black hero.

I see an edgy, up to the minute, popular premise, something really fresh with appealing writing.  Such as Time Traveler&#039;s Wife, but even more readable and accessible.  For her to break out of the black niche, it would have to be out of the box--not downtrodden soap opera.  Definitely with a diverse cast racially. Something like that to kick her to the top and she&#039;s able to keep producing consistently and can ease into more romantic themes too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blacks eat up hot IR, even when paranormal and in e-book format no less, I hear.  There is obviously a market out there for hot. Zane is as nasty as hell (and I love her) and she sold.  Why not a passel of copycats as usual?  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m wondering.  They give us soap opera, but are light on the nasty.</p>
<p>I think a problem is that publishing over thinks what blacks are supposed to like and try hard to dish that up with the object of sales and getting paid. That&#8217;s what keeps their paychecks coming, after all.</p>
<p>I think a breakout black author would be published by a mainstream publisher with a lot of hype.  I see her as writing mainstream romance&#8211;don&#8217;t know if traditional romance readers can go with black characters for their usual romance fix&#8211;especially a black hero.</p>
<p>I see an edgy, up to the minute, popular premise, something really fresh with appealing writing.  Such as Time Traveler&#8217;s Wife, but even more readable and accessible.  For her to break out of the black niche, it would have to be out of the box&#8211;not downtrodden soap opera.  Definitely with a diverse cast racially. Something like that to kick her to the top and she&#8217;s able to keep producing consistently and can ease into more romantic themes too.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://saveblackromance.com/?p=415&#038;cpage=1#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conservative thing is actually funny--L.A. Banks writes some of the most erotic love scenes in her books and readers beg for more, and ZANE is &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; go-to author for black erotica. But perhaps the issue is that the romance genre skews older and more middle-class than sf/f (L.A. Banks) or erotica (Zane)? 

When I look at what black authors have crossed over, their subject matter is either drama-filled (Eric Jerome Dickey, Terry MacMillan, Kimberla Lawson Roby, et al) -or downtrodden, &quot;Precious&quot; type stuff (Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, etc). 

I&#039;m waiting as well for that black writer who can cross over. But how would she? Where would she be published?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conservative thing is actually funny&#8211;L.A. Banks writes some of the most erotic love scenes in her books and readers beg for more, and ZANE is <em>the</em> go-to author for black erotica. But perhaps the issue is that the romance genre skews older and more middle-class than sf/f (L.A. Banks) or erotica (Zane)? </p>
<p>When I look at what black authors have crossed over, their subject matter is either drama-filled (Eric Jerome Dickey, Terry MacMillan, Kimberla Lawson Roby, et al) -or downtrodden, &#8220;Precious&#8221; type stuff (Toni Morrison, Alice Walker, etc). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting as well for that black writer who can cross over. But how would she? Where would she be published?</p>
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		<title>By: Monica Jackson</title>
		<link>http://saveblackromance.com/?p=415&#038;cpage=1#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post.  Can&#039;t believe I&#039;m just discovering this blog.  I find black women en masse or in general tend to be somewhat conservative--thus the sweetness of Kimani.  The flip side is the street lit relationship drama.  There might be foul language, drugs, and thugs, but check it out--it tends to run to the moralistic or conservative as far as the underlying message.  Gospel themes are always popular in black literature, no matter how naughty the churchified folk may be.  

I think Roslyn is right on about e-books and their tendency for more sexually raw, IR, or paranormal content isn&#039;t what suits the average black romance reader.  

I think books for specialized markets can be maintained--thus the street lit, the gospel stuff and even the sweeter conservative black woman romance--but to cross over into mainstream there needs to be an author who writes something that appeals to most of them across the board and is thus adopted as universal.  Not sure what she&#039;ll write--but it would have to be absolutely awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post.  Can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m just discovering this blog.  I find black women en masse or in general tend to be somewhat conservative&#8211;thus the sweetness of Kimani.  The flip side is the street lit relationship drama.  There might be foul language, drugs, and thugs, but check it out&#8211;it tends to run to the moralistic or conservative as far as the underlying message.  Gospel themes are always popular in black literature, no matter how naughty the churchified folk may be.  </p>
<p>I think Roslyn is right on about e-books and their tendency for more sexually raw, IR, or paranormal content isn&#8217;t what suits the average black romance reader.  </p>
<p>I think books for specialized markets can be maintained&#8211;thus the street lit, the gospel stuff and even the sweeter conservative black woman romance&#8211;but to cross over into mainstream there needs to be an author who writes something that appeals to most of them across the board and is thus adopted as universal.  Not sure what she&#8217;ll write&#8211;but it would have to be absolutely awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Lashonda</title>
		<link>http://saveblackromance.com/?p=415&#038;cpage=1#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator>Lashonda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheila, I have to agree with you. I am a 36 year old woman from East Orange, NJ and although I come from an urban setting, what I saw as romance growing up and what I have now is more along the line of AA romance. I too am an avid reader and read all genre&#039;s so I can appreciate erotica, urban lit, chick lit, paranormal, etc. I think if you pick up a romance, knowing it is a romance novel you will not be disappointed. There are so many genres to write under that saying AA romance is flawed for what a reader wants is wrong. Finding the right genre for what you want is the key.

I also think that postive role models in life or books is needed. I know that I do not want my daughter thinking that she can not have happy ever after, it does happen and it does exist. Drama filled romance is not the norm for all AA&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheila, I have to agree with you. I am a 36 year old woman from East Orange, NJ and although I come from an urban setting, what I saw as romance growing up and what I have now is more along the line of AA romance. I too am an avid reader and read all genre&#8217;s so I can appreciate erotica, urban lit, chick lit, paranormal, etc. I think if you pick up a romance, knowing it is a romance novel you will not be disappointed. There are so many genres to write under that saying AA romance is flawed for what a reader wants is wrong. Finding the right genre for what you want is the key.</p>
<p>I also think that postive role models in life or books is needed. I know that I do not want my daughter thinking that she can not have happy ever after, it does happen and it does exist. Drama filled romance is not the norm for all AA&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good discussion. Angela, unfortunately I think a lot of people don&#039;t realize that all AAs aren&#039;t from the hood or lived the life of what goes on in the hood. The life shown in street lit is not everyone&#039;s reality. Most of my friends can relate more to the life shown in AA romance novels than in the street lit genre. Now don&#039;t get me wrong, as an avid reader, I love reading not only contemporary romance, but urban or street lit or mysteries, etc. I like to be taken out of my reality when I read some books. 

For me, the AA romance books are true to life and that&#039;s why I love reading them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good discussion. Angela, unfortunately I think a lot of people don&#8217;t realize that all AAs aren&#8217;t from the hood or lived the life of what goes on in the hood. The life shown in street lit is not everyone&#8217;s reality. Most of my friends can relate more to the life shown in AA romance novels than in the street lit genre. Now don&#8217;t get me wrong, as an avid reader, I love reading not only contemporary romance, but urban or street lit or mysteries, etc. I like to be taken out of my reality when I read some books. </p>
<p>For me, the AA romance books are true to life and that&#8217;s why I love reading them.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Scott</title>
		<link>http://saveblackromance.com/?p=415&#038;cpage=1#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I may be in the minority, but I don’t particularly need to see a positive image of blacks. IMO, all the emphasis on positive images is to impress non-blacks.&lt;/i&gt; 

I have to disagree, I think non-blacks do need to see positive images of blacks, to counter-balance the many negative images of us that are out there.

Also, I think the more black role models that we can point to, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I may be in the minority, but I don’t particularly need to see a positive image of blacks. IMO, all the emphasis on positive images is to impress non-blacks.</i> </p>
<p>I have to disagree, I think non-blacks do need to see positive images of blacks, to counter-balance the many negative images of us that are out there.</p>
<p>Also, I think the more black role models that we can point to, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwyneth Bolton</title>
		<link>http://saveblackromance.com/?p=415&#038;cpage=1#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyneth Bolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I think we&#039;ll have to agree to disagree on these because I do feel that writers can write inside of any genre and have their characters still be true to their race, ethnicity and culture whether that genre be mystery, science fiction or even romance. And our experiences reading black romances clearly have been totally different. The reason I read so many black romance novels is because the characters &quot;read&quot; very black to me. They &quot;read&quot; black, but I still get to experience the escape that I crave when I read a romance. But this blog post has got me thinking about the whole &quot;what is black and what is black enough&quot; question. In a lot of ways it is a throwback to the Black Arts and Black Power Movements. But some times you need the throwback questions. This conversation almost has me feeling like blogging again...almost. Thanks, Angela!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I think we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree on these because I do feel that writers can write inside of any genre and have their characters still be true to their race, ethnicity and culture whether that genre be mystery, science fiction or even romance. And our experiences reading black romances clearly have been totally different. The reason I read so many black romance novels is because the characters &#8220;read&#8221; very black to me. They &#8220;read&#8221; black, but I still get to experience the escape that I crave when I read a romance. But this blog post has got me thinking about the whole &#8220;what is black and what is black enough&#8221; question. In a lot of ways it is a throwback to the Black Arts and Black Power Movements. But some times you need the throwback questions. This conversation almost has me feeling like blogging again&#8230;almost. Thanks, Angela!</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re somewhat speaking at cross-purposes. I don&#039;t intend to say that what I desire from black romance will push black romance writers out of the genre. What I mean is that these characters rarely feel &quot;black&quot; to me--whether they be upper class, lower class, middle class, working class, DJs, teachers, footballers, dog-walkers, millionaires, et al. Yes, we are all of different shades, backgrounds and life experiences, and black Americans are not the &quot;Other,&quot; but there are certain commonalities within the black American culture. Race and racism does not book-end our lives, but it has shaped our culture, and a black CEO is not going to have the same outlook on life as a white CEO, nor will a black teacher in the middle of New York City have the same experience as her white counterpart, or even her Asian or Hispanic counterpart. It sounds harsh, but black characters in romance can read pretty sanitized, scrubbed clean of anything that screams too &quot;black&quot; (whatever that means), in their portrayal. 

The romance genre does have its tropes, but I feel that they can and should be played with, morphed, and modified to fit non-WASP norms, rather than the characters of color and ethnic backgrounds stuffed into the tropes which are shaped largely by traditional white (&quot;Anglo-Saxon&quot;) American norms. The most glaring example of this I can think of is the The Princess and the Frog--rather than Disney culling from the rich African traditional tales, be they Afro-American, Afro-Latin, etc in origin, for a fairy tale, they take a traditional European tale and put black characters into it. Even as enjoyable as Mulan and Pocahontas were, they were &quot;fairy tales&quot; based on historical events rather than the writers browsing through Powhatan tales or Chinese folklore. I just feel that to take the tropes inherent to the romance genre at face value once more makes the European-American roots the &quot;norm.&quot; As much as street lit is deplored and though I do agree that it glorifies the thug life, I can see that black readers may flock to it because its narrative values speak directly to them, as opposed to reading a book with a boss and his lovelorn secretary, who happen to be black, but whose basic narrative value would be no different than if the characters were white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re somewhat speaking at cross-purposes. I don&#8217;t intend to say that what I desire from black romance will push black romance writers out of the genre. What I mean is that these characters rarely feel &#8220;black&#8221; to me&#8211;whether they be upper class, lower class, middle class, working class, DJs, teachers, footballers, dog-walkers, millionaires, et al. Yes, we are all of different shades, backgrounds and life experiences, and black Americans are not the &#8220;Other,&#8221; but there are certain commonalities within the black American culture. Race and racism does not book-end our lives, but it has shaped our culture, and a black CEO is not going to have the same outlook on life as a white CEO, nor will a black teacher in the middle of New York City have the same experience as her white counterpart, or even her Asian or Hispanic counterpart. It sounds harsh, but black characters in romance can read pretty sanitized, scrubbed clean of anything that screams too &#8220;black&#8221; (whatever that means), in their portrayal. </p>
<p>The romance genre does have its tropes, but I feel that they can and should be played with, morphed, and modified to fit non-WASP norms, rather than the characters of color and ethnic backgrounds stuffed into the tropes which are shaped largely by traditional white (&#8220;Anglo-Saxon&#8221;) American norms. The most glaring example of this I can think of is the The Princess and the Frog&#8211;rather than Disney culling from the rich African traditional tales, be they Afro-American, Afro-Latin, etc in origin, for a fairy tale, they take a traditional European tale and put black characters into it. Even as enjoyable as Mulan and Pocahontas were, they were &#8220;fairy tales&#8221; based on historical events rather than the writers browsing through Powhatan tales or Chinese folklore. I just feel that to take the tropes inherent to the romance genre at face value once more makes the European-American roots the &#8220;norm.&#8221; As much as street lit is deplored and though I do agree that it glorifies the thug life, I can see that black readers may flock to it because its narrative values speak directly to them, as opposed to reading a book with a boss and his lovelorn secretary, who happen to be black, but whose basic narrative value would be no different than if the characters were white.</p>
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